Comments on: Stay Employed – Web Developer Skills in Most Demand (PHP, AJAX, MySQL …)

By: Tibet Travel

Tibet Travel — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 08:02:25 +0000

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By: Mark C

Mark C — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 17:11:43 +0000

**** PHP/Apache/MySQL are the now and the future. ***

MySQL is out and out garbage. Only the brain-dead even think about using that buggy toy.

By: RP

RP — Sun, 18 Oct 2009 15:03:58 +0000

The trend of the future is definitely web. I’ve been in the industry for like 8 years now. Those desktop applications are gradually migrating into web applications.

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By: Scott Fleming

Scott Fleming — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 07:43:19 +0000

I began learning ASP and XML early, but when I discovered PHP, then Ajax and the powerful solutions these two can create, I turned from the MS world in favor of this open source love.

MS has it’s strengths, but there’s something to be said of the Open Source world and it’s infinite sharing of solutions and brilliance.

MS isn’t so sharing in this nature.

By: Iain H

Iain H — Tue, 08 Sep 2009 15:16:32 +0000

A top class programmer should know numerous languages for the benefit of advancing their skillset. Likewise an agency should be able to cover as much as possible.

I like PHP and admit but also admit that I don’t have any like for Microsoft but their development products are the best in the market bar none, jobs catering for .Net technologies pay higher than open source technologies.

You specialise in what pays the bills at the end of the day and I’m with the guy earlier who stated that its impossible to compete with the ‘$2″ php, html and JaavScript coders who appear to generally gain most of their ’skills’ by cut n paste from existing code. Sadly most buyers fall for this every time.

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Wed, 29 Jul 2009 17:09:51 +0000

[...] we see that AJAX developers are still in demand with 315 jobs posted per month and a 27% fill rate. PHP is still very popular and competitive on oDesk, but developing some additional skills in an area with a lower fill rate [...]

By: Brandon

Brandon — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 14:58:14 +0000

.NET is either on a downward slide or on a flat demand trend, and that is why it is not included here. This post is showing technologies that are INCREASING in demand. Some of you people don’t read…

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By: IT BUZZ

IT BUZZ — Sat, 14 Mar 2009 02:05:13 +0000

Its good to see php jobs are increasing day by day. And i guess the most important factor is the number of website increase. And more importantly now companies have to build online entity as customers are really seeking for it. So thumbs up for php. I myself love php

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Thu, 05 Mar 2009 22:01:22 +0000

[...] We’ve been talking about PHP for a while now — back in December, we listed PHP as the web developer skill in most demand, and highlighted its meteoric rise: from 800 jobs posted in November 2007 to 1,800 last July. [...]

By: Old Dog (w/Many new Tricks)

Old Dog (w/Many new Tricks) — Wed, 25 Feb 2009 04:30:19 +0000

Well… this is always an interesting debate when it comes to Pay vs Free tech.

I’ve been programming now for 15 years and have a plethora of languages and environments under my belt. I’ve put more time into learning and mastering my skills them most doctors, lawyers, and other 10-12 years in school degree holders. They get paid hundreds of thousands of dollars a year because of their efforts (and their moneys put into tuition, books, etc.) I, on the other hand, have to deal with $10 an hour hacks taking jobs that should have rightfully been given to someone that knows what they are doing. Now the nice thing is, eventually, I’m hired to clean up the mess left behind, but the wages have been driven down by ridiculous amounts because anyone with an Internet connection and some time on there hands consider themselves programmers. In a perfect world (not driven by currency), open source is a wonderful concept, but in the real world (that’s where we are now folks) real business with real cash want real programmers using solid (and sometimes expensive) technology. Bash the .NET Framework all you want, but if you don’t keep an open mind and learn it (and other non open source technologies), you are only holding yourself back from obtaining a solid career in programming.

Now that the money thing is out of the way, lets look at efficiency.

I love coding using PHP or J2EE with MySQL. It’s fun and feels hardcore! Putting so much effort into coding does give me a huge sense of accomplishment when I’m finished a project. I also code using ASP.NET and MSSQL. My development time with the aid of MS IDEs is anywhere from 50 to 70 percent faster!!! and the customer gets the exact same product! oh oh… and I get paid more to program ASP.NET apps!

I have no idea why anyone would want to limit themselves by only using “what they like”, instead of learning “where the money is”.

Honestly, If I could do it all over again… I’d be an Electrician : )

By: Chris de Vidal

Chris de Vidal — Sun, 15 Feb 2009 21:48:12 +0000

I’ve been pondering a career direction change from systems administration to web development (since I have some PHP experience), so I read your article with interest… that is, until I browsed other providers on oDesk who work with PHP and the pay range is utterly depressing… the VERY BEST PHP CODER is only making $30/hour:
http://www.odesk.com/users/?q=php

The rest in the top ten go as low as $5/hour. I’m sorry, but I’m not going to bust my butt to compete with someone who makes less than I would at McDonalds.

Unfortunately, the story is only slightly better for Java:
http://www.odesk.com/users/?q=java

I’ve got a mortgage and a third baby coming. I cannot compete with that kind of difference in cost of living; it may be possible to live like a king in Pakistan on $10/hour but here, that’s not going to help us.

I guess I’ll invest in a career future that almost always /requires/ hands-on and on-site work, such as sysadmin or networking, because it appears that I can’t compete in programming, at least here in the US.

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website-press.com — Tue, 27 Jan 2009 11:44:13 +0000

Web Developer Skills in Most Demand…

While these may not be a great revelation to many, included below are the web development skills that will get you employed now and by all evidences of their growth, for the foreseeable future. Knowing and being professional in at least some of the ski…

By: Zach

Zach — Thu, 22 Jan 2009 07:03:49 +0000

Lets back this with facts instead of pissed off programmers upset about outsourcing. PHP and MySEQL are great so is AJAX and .net but heres reality, wordpress and blogging wouldn’t be here with out PHP and MySQL and Google wouldnt be here with out AJAX but listen leave AJAX and .NET to the Googles and leave PHP to start ups who need a low cost solution. If your pissed about outsourcing improve your skills and get a better job or program your own site and match with an SEO guy. But overall I just dont care, outsourcing allows for web start ups!

By: eljuan

eljuan — Tue, 13 Jan 2009 21:36:04 +0000

Anyone have two cents on PERL over PHP?

OK, let the trash talk begin!

By: Frank Higgins

Frank Higgins — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 23:32:47 +0000

Shirish, these numbers are by keyword in the job posting title. We will look into web desinger as a term for a future posting. sorry.

By: Shirish

Shirish — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 22:56:41 +0000

Don’t see any mention of Web Designers here?

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Thu, 08 Jan 2009 17:31:44 +0000

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By: Reb Sem

Reb Sem — Tue, 23 Dec 2008 17:17:36 +0000

PHP is in high demand on oDesk because PHP developers are dirt cheap and produce fast hacks.

By: Timothy

Timothy — Tue, 23 Dec 2008 15:07:02 +0000

I fit into all of the categories. Go ME! (-_-)

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AndyNotAndrew.net » Blog Archive » It’s Christmas Time — Tue, 23 Dec 2008 08:04:21 +0000

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By: Michael Lok

Michael Lok — Tue, 23 Dec 2008 03:59:30 +0000

That trend is probably true in US/Europe. But not so in South East Asia; specifically in Malaysia. 90% of the companies are looking for .Net or Java. Remaining 10% is a mixture of C/C++ and a dash of PHP. And for those companies who are looking for PHP programmers, their pay is at least 40-50% LESS compared to a .Net/Java equivalent.

PHP just gets absolutely NO love here

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Tue, 23 Dec 2008 00:00:26 +0000

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By: website design

website design — Fri, 19 Dec 2008 20:00:44 +0000

I love it when a job posting will say “Seeking PHP/Ajax/JS/XML/MySQL/CSS/Graphic Designer.” What more do they want, someone who looks like Jessica Alba and makes good coffee too?

By: abdul basit

abdul basit — Fri, 19 Dec 2008 12:32:37 +0000

soon there will be a tool where you don’t need programming language skills
it will be all about drag and drop and run application ..
i think it will be change soon people don’t need highly skill programmer just a person who have some how know of computer will be enough

basit

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By: homercycles

homercycles — Thu, 18 Dec 2008 11:50:51 +0000

The only reason a person would develop something in PHP is because they heard or read that it’s free/open-source, so therefore it must be the programming language to use. Top that off with as crappy a database choice as MySQL and you have morons leading morons resulting in buggy crap.

Seriously, people, PHP is a ghetto. You’d be better of learning VB.Net than PHP it’s that bad. And for a decent database that’s not buggy, doesn’t lose your data, and has real SQL, use PostgreSQL. MySQL is about as dodgy as PHP (no wonder PHP morons choose MySQL and vice versa).

LAMP should be LAPP: Linux Apache PostgreSQL Perl

By: Matrix

Matrix — Thu, 18 Dec 2008 05:12:33 +0000

Good to see Open source kit on the growth road..
What abt “php.net” ? Was this even looked at in the list…?
I hope combination of opensource (php) and Microsoft Tech(visual studio)
would be on the growth way soon…..

By: GJB

GJB — Thu, 18 Dec 2008 03:50:23 +0000

.NET is not nearly as expensive as people presume. A small business can get Web Developer Express and SQL Express for nothing and they are incredibly powerful IDEs, not to mention .NET screams when used properly, just look up the plentyoffish story as an example.

By: Wayne John

Wayne John — Thu, 18 Dec 2008 03:48:20 +0000

I’d like to see a graph on .net as well. Personally, I think PHP is highly over-rated and I compare it to classic asp to some degree. There are too many people out there that think their programmers when in reality they aren’t, so that really makes the technology used a moot point.

But they all have their merits, but it should always be the right tools for the right job. php and ruby for porn and hack sites, .net for business. Let’s see if that doesn’t stir the pot a little.

By: dave

dave — Thu, 18 Dec 2008 03:41:42 +0000

OK people if your a developer, then its probably safe to assume your fairly intelligent. so lets not act temporarily retarded by making statements based on emotional bias. Ive been in IT for almost 10 years now on both the infrastructure side and for the past 5 years the development side. And i can say base mostly on personal experience and from talking to other consultants, that PHP, MySQL, ASP.Net, MSSQL, VB.Net, C#, Java are all very wildley used and i dont see any of them disappearing anytime soon. I personally use and like .Net/MS SQL. That said i have a few friends that can do pretty much everything i can do with .Net and AJax with PHP and Java. If your a good programmer learning another language is mostly a matter of learning some new syntax. personally i go into interviews with an attitude of here is what i know, and anything i dont im willing to learn. i havent had trouble finding a job since ive been in IT.

By: Ardi

Ardi — Wed, 17 Dec 2008 20:13:54 +0000

The Number of Website always increase year to year. So, PHP, AJAX, MySQL will still exist and necessary to build a New Website or Re Design. Keep up our skills. Success !

By: Matt D.

Matt D. — Wed, 17 Dec 2008 19:49:18 +0000

If a source as big as HERB calls your data invalid and irrelevant you might as well pack it in. I mean it’s not like he can’t even link to a functioning website.

By: Herb

Herb — Wed, 17 Dec 2008 19:22:52 +0000

Open Source Developers are tiny cosmic dusts particles in the programming world. .Net provides the best IDE and tools for building robust application. This data is invalid and irrelevant.

By: q

Wed, 17 Dec 2008 17:16:54 +0000

Yes, let’s all pretend ASP.NET doesn’t exist because we don’t like Microsoft. The problem is, the technology’s used by most of the largest corporations and government entities. Who cares what some guy in his garage looking to hire sweatshop programmers for $10/hr. wants to use?

I like open source tools too, but it doesn’t mean you can ignore the most widely deployed technologies (.NET/Java) just because you don’t like them.

By: Matthew

Matthew — Wed, 17 Dec 2008 16:43:51 +0000

Looks like .NET is not in the top list – not surprising though. Ruby and Phyton no where near?

matt

By: Jackson

Jackson — Wed, 17 Dec 2008 16:12:23 +0000

Actually, I would suspect that the trend towards PHP+MySQL+JS, etc. is based in the expense related to MS development. Companies are tightening their belts and not buying into the brand power of Microsoft.

By: Anton

Anton — Wed, 17 Dec 2008 16:07:27 +0000

Sorry Ruby developers, you aren’t going to be around in 2 years

By: Mikey

Mikey — Wed, 17 Dec 2008 15:46:31 +0000

Posts like these always bring out the fanboys don’t they…
I personally love to code with XAMP tech, but MS pays the bills.
Lots of companies use MS and do fine, lots of companies use OSS and do well also. Here on the east coast it’s difficult to find PHP jobs that pay well so it pays to not be too picky if you want to write code…
Either way, ASP.NET and MSSQL should be in the list because they’re viable and relevant to the discussion.

By: Vance

Vance — Wed, 17 Dec 2008 15:45:28 +0000

Am I the only one who’s noticing that nearly all those graphs either have already topped off and appear to be going back down or have just reached their peak? And this shows there is an overwhelming number of web jobs available when it appears the curve is going back down?

By: Bob Too

Bob Too — Wed, 17 Dec 2008 15:17:39 +0000

Anyone who hates Microsoft has not used 1/100th of their products.

By: Janis West

Janis West — Wed, 17 Dec 2008 14:47:13 +0000

Darnit, I knew I should have learned Ajax while I had a chance!

jess

By: Bob

Bob — Wed, 17 Dec 2008 14:46:18 +0000

Dont listen to the M$ hype. ASP/ASP.net are expensive programmaticly and only companies suckered by salesmen want to use it.

PHP/Apache/MySQL are the now and the future.

By: Bob Smith

Bob Smith — Wed, 17 Dec 2008 14:06:12 +0000

http://www.google.com/trends?q=php%2C+asp&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all&sort=0

By: Google Translate

Google Translate — Wed, 17 Dec 2008 13:47:26 +0000

I would disagree with DR. Instead of just being a Microsoft basher it’s better to take a look at those technologies as well. Being a long time Microsoft technologies user at work and passionate about Microsoft technologies and all the alternatives I would say both has its own merits.

By: Max Entin

Max Entin — Wed, 17 Dec 2008 13:45:29 +0000

Can you show a comparison of Ruby on Rails VS the Django framework?

By: DR

DR — Wed, 17 Dec 2008 13:26:52 +0000

.Net sucks to all eternity…companies who use it are cheap and outdated.

By: naspinski

naspinski — Wed, 17 Dec 2008 12:27:47 +0000

I find it very hard to believe that Asp.Net and MSSQL are not on the list, were these even looked at? After being almost purely php for years, nearly all of my work since I got out of college has been Asp.Net/MSSQL. Could you provide the link to where these stats were computed?

By: DemoGeek

DemoGeek — Wed, 17 Dec 2008 03:13:34 +0000

Any Ruby on Rails trend?