Comments on: Joomla vs Drupal – Battle of the CMSes http://www.odesk.com/blog/2009/02/joomla-vs-drupal-battle-of-the-cmses/ oDesk - The Future of Work Mon, 23 Nov 2009 07:46:55 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: joomlauser http://www.odesk.com/blog/2009/02/joomla-vs-drupal-battle-of-the-cmses/comment-page-1/#comment-64488 joomlauser Thu, 22 Oct 2009 18:13:01 +0000 http://www.odesk.com/blog/?p=1939#comment-64488 Joomla was working fine intially !!! But it has Severe Vulnerabilities even the Super Admin account gets compromised and your site gets into hackers control within seconds!!!!!!! To add more to this Joomla Forum and other "so called" helpful links are extremely unhelpful!!! The Leadership Team of Joomla consists of Immature, Inexperienced Jerks like Brad Baker and all. All they do is write mean, abusive words, and blame you for Joomla Vulnerability!!!! USE IT AT YOUR OWN RISK!!!! They say update has resolved this issue, but who knows what trouble it has in store!!!! Joomla was working fine intially !!! But it has Severe Vulnerabilities even the Super Admin account gets compromised and your site gets into hackers control within seconds!!!!!!! To add more to this Joomla Forum and other “so called” helpful links are extremely unhelpful!!! The Leadership Team of Joomla consists of Immature, Inexperienced Jerks like Brad Baker and all. All they do is write mean, abusive words, and blame you for Joomla Vulnerability!!!! USE IT AT YOUR OWN RISK!!!! They say update has resolved this issue, but who knows what trouble it has in store!!!!

]]> By: MRX http://www.odesk.com/blog/2009/02/joomla-vs-drupal-battle-of-the-cmses/comment-page-1/#comment-64184 MRX Tue, 08 Sep 2009 14:39:05 +0000 http://www.odesk.com/blog/?p=1939#comment-64184 Drupal is wery powefull, although you have to learn a LOT,and quantity of modules to be searched for and installed to get even basic tasks are enormous. On the other side, you ar not stuck in some point, where you need, lets say output a bunch of thumbnails with rounded corners, that have hover images and shows flv videos on mouseover that automatically converts from avi on upload and has 5 player options with customizable buttons. It has some essential problems in version 6.X 1. Clean URLs using views and stacks with arguments 2. Clean HTML using a lot of modules in one place 3. User rights management in more advanced solutions, like community websites. But the bright side is, it is soon to be 7.X with lots of good upgrades in terms of module compatibility, basic core functions and security. My conclusion: If you will get your head around learning curve, you will be a happy man. Drupal is wery powefull, although you have to learn a LOT,and quantity of modules to be searched for and installed to get even basic tasks are enormous.

On the other side, you ar not stuck in some point, where you need, lets say output a bunch of thumbnails with rounded corners, that have hover images and shows flv videos on mouseover that automatically converts from avi on upload and has 5 player options with customizable buttons.

It has some essential problems in version 6.X
1. Clean URLs using views and stacks with arguments
2. Clean HTML using a lot of modules in one place
3. User rights management in more advanced solutions, like community websites.

But the bright side is, it is soon to be 7.X with lots of good upgrades in terms of module compatibility, basic core functions and security.

My conclusion: If you will get your head around learning curve, you will be a happy man.

]]> By: Shaun http://www.odesk.com/blog/2009/02/joomla-vs-drupal-battle-of-the-cmses/comment-page-1/#comment-63786 Shaun Fri, 24 Jul 2009 19:01:14 +0000 http://www.odesk.com/blog/?p=1939#comment-63786 To Madhava Mahishi: Sites that use Drupal- http://egressive.com/who-uses-drupal http://buytaert.net/tag/drupal-sites http://www.avenuewebmedia.com/high-profile-sites-run-drupal To Madhava Mahishi:
Sites that use Drupal-

http://egressive.com/who-uses-drupal
http://buytaert.net/tag/drupal-sites
http://www.avenuewebmedia.com/high-profile-sites-run-drupal

]]> By: Madhava Mahishi http://www.odesk.com/blog/2009/02/joomla-vs-drupal-battle-of-the-cmses/comment-page-1/#comment-63650 Madhava Mahishi Fri, 03 Jul 2009 04:46:54 +0000 http://www.odesk.com/blog/?p=1939#comment-63650 "Drupal jobs have half the frequency and are twice the length, which may point to the platform being used more by larger enterprises, vs. smaller projects for smaller businesses for Joomla" You are saying it is used by larger enterprises: Is this an assumption or a fact from your database? Just because projects are of longer duration may not mean they are from bigger enterprises. Could be because doing the work could take more longer in Drupal than in Joomla? Could you please mine some more from your database and post it here? It will definitely help in choosing a CMS. “Drupal jobs have half the frequency and are twice the length, which may point to the platform being used more by larger enterprises, vs. smaller projects for smaller businesses for Joomla”

You are saying it is used by larger enterprises: Is this an assumption or a fact from your database? Just because projects are of longer duration may not mean they are from bigger enterprises. Could be because doing the work could take more longer in Drupal than in Joomla?

Could you please mine some more from your database and post it here? It will definitely help in choosing a CMS.

]]> By: Thomas Bacon http://www.odesk.com/blog/2009/02/joomla-vs-drupal-battle-of-the-cmses/comment-page-1/#comment-63522 Thomas Bacon Thu, 25 Jun 2009 05:55:47 +0000 http://www.odesk.com/blog/?p=1939#comment-63522 I agree with Jason L, the reason Joomla! is more popular is b/c the back-end is easier. That said, as a technie, I prefer Drupal and the power it offers. It also integrates very well with CiviCRM, and open source CRM I use. @Long- I bet you've seen tons of Joomla! sites that looked great, you just didn't recognize them as Joomla! sites b/c they were well designed and coded... Many novices think the default themes are what a CMS "looks" like and don't understand it's what under the hood that matters. You could code three identical-looking sites in Wordpress, Joomla! and Drupal. I agree with Jason L, the reason Joomla! is more popular is b/c the back-end is easier. That said, as a technie, I prefer Drupal and the power it offers. It also integrates very well with CiviCRM, and open source CRM I use.

@Long- I bet you’ve seen tons of Joomla! sites that looked great, you just didn’t recognize them as Joomla! sites b/c they were well designed and coded… Many novices think the default themes are what a CMS “looks” like and don’t understand it’s what under the hood that matters. You could code three identical-looking sites in Wordpress, Joomla! and Drupal.

]]> By: rhys http://www.odesk.com/blog/2009/02/joomla-vs-drupal-battle-of-the-cmses/comment-page-1/#comment-63463 rhys Thu, 18 Jun 2009 22:46:58 +0000 http://www.odesk.com/blog/?p=1939#comment-63463 I am a business owner wanting to create a business oriented community site to attract and dialog with my target clients. I have 2 bids -one developer wants Drupal the other Joomla. I read an older article that indicated Joomla sites make sloppy code and take longer to load. Is this old news or is it true? Page load time is now said to be a weighting factor in Google seraches so it matters more than ever. From a pure functionality perspective which would be best for the end users? I can deal with some additional complexity. It's ONLY the user experience I am concerned about. I am a business owner wanting to create a business oriented community site to attract and dialog with my target clients.
I have 2 bids -one developer wants Drupal the other Joomla. I read an older article that indicated Joomla sites make sloppy code and take longer to load. Is this old news or is it true? Page load time is now said to be a weighting factor in Google seraches so it matters more than ever.

From a pure functionality perspective which would be best for the end users? I can deal with some additional complexity. It’s ONLY the user experience I am concerned about.

]]> By: Long http://www.odesk.com/blog/2009/02/joomla-vs-drupal-battle-of-the-cmses/comment-page-1/#comment-59392 Long Thu, 09 Apr 2009 17:47:06 +0000 http://www.odesk.com/blog/?p=1939#comment-59392 Can someone post some joomla websites that don't look like crap? Can someone post some joomla websites that don’t look like crap?

]]> By: Roel http://www.odesk.com/blog/2009/02/joomla-vs-drupal-battle-of-the-cmses/comment-page-1/#comment-58024 Roel Wed, 11 Mar 2009 09:28:08 +0000 http://www.odesk.com/blog/?p=1939#comment-58024 I have been a data entry for a joomla site and since then i've been a huge fan. I downloaded lots of ebooks and sure thing, it is so easy to learn because of the simple interface it provides. However, I've learned that Drupal offers a lot more cool templates and easy-to-use interface, I will also learn this one. I have been a data entry for a joomla site and since then i’ve been a huge fan. I downloaded lots of ebooks and sure thing, it is so easy to learn because of the simple interface it provides. However, I’ve learned that Drupal offers a lot more cool templates and easy-to-use interface, I will also learn this one.

]]> By: Jason L. http://www.odesk.com/blog/2009/02/joomla-vs-drupal-battle-of-the-cmses/comment-page-1/#comment-57991 Jason L. Tue, 10 Mar 2009 14:39:18 +0000 http://www.odesk.com/blog/?p=1939#comment-57991 Some time ago, I tried to setup a site using Drupal. However, I decided to switch to Joomla (that was in the days of 1.0.x; now, I'm using 1.5.x, so things may be different). I've heard many times that it's easier to develop in Drupal. That would be a good thing because customizing the Joomla install is a really big pain. However, there is one thing that Drupal users fail to understand that Joomla users get, and the "mystery" reason Joomla has a larger user base: the very concept of what a content management system is all about. A CMS is not intended to be a framework for developers, but a tool for the *end users/customer* to manage their own Website without the help of a developer. To that end, Joomla has the more user-friendly administrative interfaces. To add to that, Joomla makes it easier for developers to build custom site templates. Now, if the Joomla developers made it easier to customize and extend the application, then they would break from the competition. On the flip side, if the Drupal developers made their administrative interfaces more user-friendly and the template easier to customize, the same would also apply. Some time ago, I tried to setup a site using Drupal. However, I decided to switch to Joomla (that was in the days of 1.0.x; now, I’m using 1.5.x, so things may be different). I’ve heard many times that it’s easier to develop in Drupal. That would be a good thing because customizing the Joomla install is a really big pain. However, there is one thing that Drupal users fail to understand that Joomla users get, and the “mystery” reason Joomla has a larger user base: the very concept of what a content management system is all about. A CMS is not intended to be a framework for developers, but a tool for the *end users/customer* to manage their own Website without the help of a developer. To that end, Joomla has the more user-friendly administrative interfaces. To add to that, Joomla makes it easier for developers to build custom site templates. Now, if the Joomla developers made it easier to customize and extend the application, then they would break from the competition. On the flip side, if the Drupal developers made their administrative interfaces more user-friendly and the template easier to customize, the same would also apply.

]]> By: Zain Nadeem http://www.odesk.com/blog/2009/02/joomla-vs-drupal-battle-of-the-cmses/comment-page-1/#comment-57648 Zain Nadeem Sat, 28 Feb 2009 21:33:28 +0000 http://www.odesk.com/blog/?p=1939#comment-57648 i am using Joomla for 2 years now i have used it to create more than 50 websites as its admin GUI is very easy to be managed by clients ,because all of my joomla based websites are used by clients so it must have easy to understand layout and features thats why i personally prefer Joomla . with combination of Jumi which is opensource extension of joomla i have power to create any genere of website with joomla Zain i am using Joomla for 2 years now i have used it to create more than 50 websites as its admin GUI is very easy to be managed by clients ,because all of my joomla based websites are used by clients so it must have easy to understand layout and features thats why i personally prefer Joomla .
with combination of Jumi which is opensource extension of joomla i have power to create any genere of website with joomla

Zain

]]> By: Richard Leik http://www.odesk.com/blog/2009/02/joomla-vs-drupal-battle-of-the-cmses/comment-page-1/#comment-57597 Richard Leik Wed, 25 Feb 2009 23:59:55 +0000 http://www.odesk.com/blog/?p=1939#comment-57597 Joomla has terrible speed. Compare it to Drupal and you can easily see the difference. I see Joomla as being bloated. Drupal can be customized a lot more and IMHO is easier to manage. Strangely, Joomla is a lot more popular. I guess it's the same thing as phpBB. The script itself is not that great, but there is a huge community. Joomla has terrible speed. Compare it to Drupal and you can easily see the difference.
I see Joomla as being bloated. Drupal can be customized a lot more and IMHO is easier to manage.
Strangely, Joomla is a lot more popular. I guess it’s the same thing as phpBB. The script itself is not that great, but there is a huge community.

]]> By: Robert http://www.odesk.com/blog/2009/02/joomla-vs-drupal-battle-of-the-cmses/comment-page-1/#comment-57283 Robert Sat, 14 Feb 2009 22:55:52 +0000 http://www.odesk.com/blog/?p=1939#comment-57283 I think a very important question is answered when Drupal jobs are twice as long. Joomla 1.5 and the forthcoming 1.6 are very robust CMS that can do the job of running 95%+ websites. The added complexity, duration and by extension cost are not merited. Drupal has a wonderful and growing framework and community but is in the unenviable position of being overkill as well. I think a very important question is answered when Drupal jobs are twice as long. Joomla 1.5 and the forthcoming 1.6 are very robust CMS that can do the job of running 95%+ websites. The added complexity, duration and by extension cost are not merited. Drupal has a wonderful and growing framework and community but is in the unenviable position of being overkill as well.

]]> By: Lavori riguardanti Joomla vs lavori relativi a Drupal http://www.odesk.com/blog/2009/02/joomla-vs-drupal-battle-of-the-cmses/comment-page-1/#comment-57276 Lavori riguardanti Joomla vs lavori relativi a Drupal Sat, 14 Feb 2009 14:18:03 +0000 http://www.odesk.com/blog/?p=1939#comment-57276 [...] Interessante articolo pubblicato sul blog di oDesk, il popolare sito in cui trovano punto in comune gli sviluppatori e le persone che necessitano di reclutare per un lavoro. [...] [...] Interessante articolo pubblicato sul blog di oDesk, il popolare sito in cui trovano punto in comune gli sviluppatori e le persone che necessitano di reclutare per un lavoro. [...]

]]> By: Outsourcing Tips, Best Practices, and News from oDesk » Joomla vs … « About CMS Blog http://www.odesk.com/blog/2009/02/joomla-vs-drupal-battle-of-the-cmses/comment-page-1/#comment-57273 Outsourcing Tips, Best Practices, and News from oDesk » Joomla vs … « About CMS Blog Sat, 14 Feb 2009 07:54:13 +0000 http://www.odesk.com/blog/?p=1939#comment-57273 [...] Continued here: Outsourcing Tips, Best Practices, and News from oDesk » Joomla vs … [...] [...] Continued here: Outsourcing Tips, Best Practices, and News from oDesk » Joomla vs … [...]

]]> By: Ashley http://www.odesk.com/blog/2009/02/joomla-vs-drupal-battle-of-the-cmses/comment-page-1/#comment-57243 Ashley Fri, 13 Feb 2009 01:15:32 +0000 http://www.odesk.com/blog/?p=1939#comment-57243 I like Drupal better. I've used both and I found Joomla much more difficult to understand. Just the GUI was hard to figure out. Drupal seemed easier from the start. However, I now develop most sites I build using Wordpress as the framework. It's getting so robust it's got nearly everything you could want in a CMS. I like Drupal better. I’ve used both and I found Joomla much more difficult to understand. Just the GUI was hard to figure out. Drupal seemed easier from the start.

However, I now develop most sites I build using Wordpress as the framework. It’s getting so robust it’s got nearly everything you could want in a CMS.

]]> By: Igor http://www.odesk.com/blog/2009/02/joomla-vs-drupal-battle-of-the-cmses/comment-page-1/#comment-57221 Igor Thu, 12 Feb 2009 12:38:20 +0000 http://www.odesk.com/blog/?p=1939#comment-57221 Hi! I've been working with Joomla 1.0 and Drupal 6.0. Personally I think that Joomla - is easy to understand. Drupal is more complex :( I've been developing a component in Joomla - the process was quick and clear, in Dupal - I even don't know where to look ( How long does it takes to be "good" in Drupal? But I would like to ask another question: How does people ever choose them? I mean Joomla and Drupal are so big... enormous! The website usually becomes a slow and big monster! What do you think? Hi!
I’ve been working with Joomla 1.0 and Drupal 6.0.
Personally I think that Joomla – is easy to understand. Drupal is more complex :(
I’ve been developing a component in Joomla – the process was quick and clear, in Dupal – I even don’t know where to look (
How long does it takes to be “good” in Drupal?

But I would like to ask another question: How does people ever choose them? I mean Joomla and Drupal are so big… enormous! The website usually becomes a slow and big monster!
What do you think?

]]> By: web http://www.odesk.com/blog/2009/02/joomla-vs-drupal-battle-of-the-cmses/comment-page-1/#comment-57219 web Thu, 12 Feb 2009 12:31:23 +0000 http://www.odesk.com/blog/?p=1939#comment-57219 You could have put both the graphs on one chart. You could have put both the graphs on one chart.

]]> By: Mittal Patel http://www.odesk.com/blog/2009/02/joomla-vs-drupal-battle-of-the-cmses/comment-page-1/#comment-57217 Mittal Patel Thu, 12 Feb 2009 10:28:30 +0000 http://www.odesk.com/blog/?p=1939#comment-57217 I have been using Drupal for couple of years and I am a fan of it. Used joomla for 2 sites and I liked the user interface it provides. Getting cool designs in drupal is tougher then joomla. Anyways, I don't care how many jobs are there available on oDesk for Drupal or Joomla, I find my clients from direct contacts ;) and currently I am having enough pings :D Nice article.... I have been using Drupal for couple of years and I am a fan of it. Used joomla for 2 sites and I liked the user interface it provides.
Getting cool designs in drupal is tougher then joomla.

Anyways, I don’t care how many jobs are there available on oDesk for Drupal or Joomla, I find my clients from direct contacts ;) and currently I am having enough pings :D

Nice article….

]]> By: rune_kg http://www.odesk.com/blog/2009/02/joomla-vs-drupal-battle-of-the-cmses/comment-page-1/#comment-57216 rune_kg Thu, 12 Feb 2009 09:43:24 +0000 http://www.odesk.com/blog/?p=1939#comment-57216 After having developed several major sites with both drupal(6.x) and joomla(1.0 & 1.5), this is what i think: Joomla has absolutely no framework stuff, you are basically writing everything from nothing. But nice backend which users like. Drupal lets you code SO much faster, provides nice API functions for everything, has inbuilt seo urls and makes even scary core stuff very easy. I'm never going to code another site in Joomla. LOL R After having developed several major sites with both drupal(6.x) and joomla(1.0 & 1.5), this is what i think:

Joomla has absolutely no framework stuff, you are basically writing everything from nothing. But nice backend which users like.

Drupal lets you code SO much faster, provides nice API functions for everything, has inbuilt seo urls and makes even scary core stuff very easy.

I’m never going to code another site in Joomla.

LOL
R

]]> By: Martijn Dekkers http://www.odesk.com/blog/2009/02/joomla-vs-drupal-battle-of-the-cmses/comment-page-1/#comment-57205 Martijn Dekkers Wed, 11 Feb 2009 21:17:49 +0000 http://www.odesk.com/blog/?p=1939#comment-57205 Drupal, hands down - Drupal is as much a development framework as it is a CMS. It is relatively trivial to build a powerful, complex publishing solution on Drupal (as opposed to "a website") and then customise and extend that. Drupal, hands down – Drupal is as much a development framework as it is a CMS. It is relatively trivial to build a powerful, complex publishing solution on Drupal (as opposed to “a website”) and then customise and extend that.

]]> By: Kevin Kaland http://www.odesk.com/blog/2009/02/joomla-vs-drupal-battle-of-the-cmses/comment-page-1/#comment-57199 Kevin Kaland Wed, 11 Feb 2009 18:29:09 +0000 http://www.odesk.com/blog/?p=1939#comment-57199 Hi there; thanks for the post. You have a good point! I am partial to Drupal myself because it's easier to customize and the development process seems sound; core is clearly separated from modules, they have security warnings, an active developer community, all the important integrations/features, etc. And in the newest version, it's even esaier to get going with tons of drag-and-drop and great usability. But I am biased because I haven't used Joomla in a while. I think the modules are the big difference, one which sometimes matters, other times does not. Hi there; thanks for the post. You have a good point!

I am partial to Drupal myself because it’s easier to customize and the development process seems sound; core is clearly separated from modules, they have security warnings, an active developer community, all the important integrations/features, etc. And in the newest version, it’s even esaier to get going with tons of drag-and-drop and great usability.

But I am biased because I haven’t used Joomla in a while. I think the modules are the big difference, one which sometimes matters, other times does not.

]]> By: Md. Mahmud Ahsan http://www.odesk.com/blog/2009/02/joomla-vs-drupal-battle-of-the-cmses/comment-page-1/#comment-57198 Md. Mahmud Ahsan Wed, 11 Feb 2009 18:12:44 +0000 http://www.odesk.com/blog/?p=1939#comment-57198 wow, great article. Thanks for such a nice posting. wow, great article. Thanks for such a nice posting.

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