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Run odesk team application for two project in same time

Does it possible to run odesk time tracking software with two pc for two project . I have a lots of easy project so I am really want to know this .

Thanks

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Run odesk team application for two project in same time

Can we have a follow up on this? I also have several project. Would this be possible and what is your advice?

Thanks in advance.

Even if the tracker allowed

Even if the tracker allowed it, It is both unethical and against TOS to bill 2 clients for the same hour worked.

Thanks, Balaji. I was

Thanks, Balaji.

I was thinking if I had two projects and had two PCs. Have both of them installed with Odesk app. Start tracking each with different (clients) from diff PCs would it track the time having a single account. Hope I made sense.

Thanks again! Smile

Clear enough for me. I

Clear enough for me. Apologies for the confusion. It was an honest question. I appreciate Odesk for the security.

No

The tracker will only track one of the jobs even if you run it at the same time on 2 different computers. oDesk is attempting to stop you from cheating your clients. Hope your client reads the forums and see what kind of character you have.
Just saying,,,,

HOnest

It's rude that we call it cheating. How about we have 2 computers and we logged time to one account having 2 different clients but we are actually working on both jobs say for example your wife/partner is working on the other and you on the other clients.

No it is still not possible.

No it is still not possible. As per TOS, only one person can use a single account. Meaning your wife or partner will need a separate account, and they will use that account, so no two people can use the same account.

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Yes, we understood what the

Yes, we understood what the OP (and everyone else who wants to cheat the system) tried to say. Don't you guys get it? It's still cheating - doesn't matter how many computers you have and run the team app on. Even if the software allowed it (and fortunately it doesn't), you'd bill one hour to both clients, while simply switching between computers would mean that you haven't worked a full effective hour for either of them. for your other suggestion - it's completely against ToS to have someone else working on your jobs from your account, and if you want your wife/partner to work on jobs, get them an account, make an agency and work from separate accounts.

I wonder why I'm still amazed by such questions.

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Rude?

It's rude to call this cheating? So if you purchased something, like let's say, oh, I don't know. Let's just say that you purchased an hour of your cousin's time to help you with work that you need done. It would be fine, then, if your cousin was hired by your brother for the same time? Is that how you feel? It would be fine with you if, during the hour that you paid your cousin for, he worked and was paid by your brother for the same hour? Even if your brother's work was a tad bit more pressing and labor intensive, so the cousin never really got to your work much in that hour? That is fine because your cousin will just bill you for another hour to get the work done that your brother's work took up time for in the first hour?

That would be fine with you? If you purchased an hours worth of work from someone who turned around and sold the same hour to someone else?

Most people expect to get an hours worth of work dedicated to the job they are paying for. That is the whole meaning behind the motto 'an hour paid is an hour worked.' Clients tend to like the guarantee that if they pay for an hour they get an hour's worth of work. It is not rude at all to point that out and to call this what it is: cheating.

It is cheating. The same way having someone who was not hired for the work do the work is cheating. Your wife or partner were not hired for your work, you were. Clients typically go to some effort to choose who they feel comfortable doing their work. If a client chooses you, you may not let someone else work on the job. The client didn't choose someone else. The client chose you.

Both of these things are cheating and unethical. They are cheating the client out of what was agreed to and paid for. They also happen to be against oDesk policy because they are wrong and they can get you in a lot of trouble.

Rude to call it cheating? It would be rude to let anyone think it was something else.

Honest? Right!!!

Jemerson T. wrote:
It's rude that we call it cheating. How about we have 2 computers and we logged time to one account having 2 different clients but we are actually working on both jobs say for example your wife/partner is working on the other and you on the other clients.

You want to scam the system and yet have the audacity to call anyone who has sense enough to see what you're doing "rude?" What cajones you have!!

I only hope Ayesha or someone else reports you to management so they can take a good long look at your account and how you've been using the time tracker.

Doubletime~

The Short Answer is No, you would need multiple accounts to do this.

It's a clear and blatant

It's a clear and blatant cheating. You yourself know that it's unethical but just want people in forum to support you. If you were working in an office would you be able to work simultaneously on two clients account at the same time. of course not.

You dont get the point on it alll...

I have like 20 clients....i lost probably as many because odesk doesnt allow me and at leas one of my emploee work like this: me for a client, and my employee for a different client, on a different contract, at the same time, from a different computer, on different contracts.
This is simply **.

Clients run away from agencies, so i cannot do that...instead they appreciate companies, like my self, with a few employees, so they know theyr work can be done in a professional environment.

Grow up oDesk,...soon enough a website that will allow for this will come up, and you will lose me, a couple duzine of clients, and many more like me.

I even raised this question in client suport like 5 times...they are simply ignoring us.

In regards to other coments...how exacly do you cheat on you clients for workin on to separate contracts simultaniously, with the help of your employees?.....someone doesnt understand plain englys here (and i know i write with typos, but i have a charming accent, so beat that)

I got so mad reading some of the comments.

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Of course you'll get mad -

Of course you'll get mad - apparently you are the one who doesn't get the point.

I really don't see what's so difficult to understand:

- if you work alone and want to track time for 2 projects simultaneously, you cheat your clients.

- if you give a project that's assigned to you to other people (employees), then you're cheating the client because they trusted YOU with the assignment, and you're violating the ToS.

- what you want is the opportunity to have your employees work under one oDesk account for multiple contracts simultaneously? No can do. The tracker is for the client - so they can see the work that's done on THEIR contract; it's programmed to track one job at a time. What you're asking is for oDesk to change the entire structure of hourly work in order to accommodate your needs...

- oDesk has provided you with an option to have your employees work on separate contracts simultaneously - it's called an agency and it requires that each member of your team has their own oDesk account. Don't like it? Don't work here.

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Negoita A. wrote:
I have like 20 clients....i lost probably as many because odesk doesnt allow me and at leas one of my emploee work like this: me for a client, and my employee for a different client, on a different contract, at the same time, from a different computer, on different contracts.
This is simply **.

Clients run away from agencies, so i cannot do that...instead they appreciate companies, like my self, with a few employees, so they know theyr work can be done in a professional environment.

Grow up oDesk,...soon enough a website that will allow for this will come up, and you will lose me, a couple duzine of clients, and many more like me.

I even raised this question in client suport like 5 times...they are simply ignoring us.

In regards to other coments...how exacly do you cheat on you clients for workin on to separate contracts simultaniously, with the help of your employees?.....someone doesnt understand plain englys here (and i know i write with typos, but i have a charming accent, so beat that)

I got so mad reading some of the comments.

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Oh, boo hoo hoo. Get over it.

You're attempting to cheat your clients, yet oDesk has made that impossible, so you want to whine about it. Go ahead. Nothing is going to change because you're pouting somewhere in a corner.

And yes, we all understand plain "englys" here. It's you who seem to be having the problem with other people's "coments" and not understanding that you can't work on separate contracts "simultaniously" without being an agency. And agency members are all required to have separate accounts. As Bojana said...don't like it, leave.

BTW, Your use of the language and your spelling certainly are not charming and show that your self-imposed rank of 5 out of 5 is misleading...at best.

Clients run away from agencies

If you understand that clients run away from agencies, why do you have such a hard time understanding that what you are doing is unethical. As far as I understand it, they run from agencies to avoid situations like you describe; dividing the work among employees as apposed to the focus of one contractor. Many contractors can have the number of contracts you are talking about, yet they don't because they understand that they have to limit themselves to only what they can accomplish effectively on their own. They know that it is their own abilities, knowledge, and experience that the client chose over other qualified contractors. It is not your employees that the client chose for the job.

You have to decide if you want to run an agency, which many clients seem to run away from (as you put it) or moderate how many jobs you take on. Having "employees" or anyone work on you contracts is wrong and a serious violation.

It seem pretty plain to me, whether englys or English, either one.

Here is an interesting comment

From one your clients:

Quote:
Alex and his team at Nego Solutions are awesome. They do great work quickly and efficiently. I highly recommend them."

and this one
Quote:
It was a pleasure to work with Nego Solutions which is an efficient team to work with. They are reliable providers. Thank you !

You do know that it is against the TErms of Service for you to have other work on a project for which you are hired and you are logging hours.
These were both hourly job so it appears you allowed others to login under your account..or I guess you could be adding their hours manually. either way, not allowed.

You are violating the ToS by

You are violating the ToS by letting others work on jobs that you acquired using this individual account. If you need your team of workers to collaborate with you on the projects, they must have separate accounts and you can then add them to your agency. The client will have to hire the exact member of your team who will be working on a particular task.

As is you are breaking the rules and I have flagged your account for this. Please read the ToS to clarify any doubts you may have.
How does the identity policy apply to agencies?

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