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Please revert the Idle screensnap function!

I work in 3D, I have recently started using the odesk team thingum, however something changed. It used to take screenshots whilst the computer was idle, it wouldn't log hours of course, but it would take a screenshot and show what the computer was doing in my absence.

For me this was invaluable as my client could see that a fluid/particle/physics simulation was running or a render was rendering. Now I have an old client that has got me back doing more work, but he's used to seeing the computer working when I'm AFK, ussually overnight, but also during the day. So now he doesn't have the screenshots to show him that I am dedicated to his project, for all he knows I could be neglecting him and working on something else.

As you know the screenshot feature is invaluable for feedback. He often checks the screens and says "hey this is wrong" or "that should look like this". Currently he is robbed of this ability to halt me in the middle of rendering when he sees problems only evident in the rendered version.

Please can you consider reverting this, or maybe adding a toggle in the preferences to enable it. I've explained the situation to him, and I hope he'll understand, but it really is a pity the feature has been removed.

Thanks,
Sam

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I had this problem before

I had this problem before too. While doing competitor analysis, the computer often needs to run through the night while I'm sleeping. This is time that should have been paid for, but because the system doesn't log those hours without mouse clicks or keystrokes, I'd wake up work done but not being paid for it.

Just talk to your clients, make sure they understand the situation. As long as they get what they paid for in the end, they shouldn't have any issue paying for manual hours.

Ah, you didn't get paid for sleeping?

How sad. Shock

Should OP hold out for a freezer? Cash

This is a wind-up, yes?

Tony H. wrote:
the computer often needs to run through the night while I'm sleeping. This is time that should have been paid for, but because the system doesn't log those hours without mouse clicks or keystrokes, I'd wake up work done but not being paid for

Nice wind-up attempt. Not falling for it......

In the unlikely event that you're serious: It is not the same thing as Sam's issue. Sam does not expect payment for the time, he would like the screenshots back as his client found them useful for practical, not financial purposes.

I wonder whether there is some piece of software that could be used to serve the same purpose? I would personally hate to have another piece of basically "spyware" on my machine but if oDesk won't reintroduce this feature it might be a work-around?

No idea what you are talking

No idea what you are talking about or getting at

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Nice wind-up attempt. Not falling for it......

..yes I am serious. The software costs a couple thousand dollars. People have absolutely no problem paying a hundred or so for the reports it generates.

You guys just seems to follow people around and instigate arguments, or just talk negative trash at any chance you can. Not sure what your problem is...

I mean... my god.. even new people who come here to ask for help the first time only end up with an earful of a certain few basically telling them off. It's like you guys just WANT to live in a little world of doubt and judgement.

Welcome to oDesk! Smile

Yes, but, Tony....

Tony H. wrote:

..yes I am serious. The software costs a couple thousand dollars. People have absolutely no problem paying a hundred or so for the reports it generates. )

If clients have "no problems" paying a hundred or so for the reports it generates, then you don't have a problem, do you? In that case you get paid for / sell the finished report, not the time your computer is running producing the report.

A baker sells bred. He does not get paid an hourly rate for the time his oven is operating to produce the bread. Product versus service. Just needs to be sold differently, as I know you know very well.

The OP's issue is a completely different one. He is not looking at payment, he wanted the feature back so the client can see details of what is happening and comment on it.

Yeah.. I read it as something

Yeah.. I read it as something to do with proof of the contractor being dedicated to the client.

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So now he doesn't have the screenshots to show him that I am dedicated to his project, for all he knows I could be neglecting him and working on something else.
...after re-reading it seems he was referring to two points.

In my case I had to add manual hours and ask the client to 'trust me'.

Still not sure why you guys feel the need to chase people around the forum and attack or bully people. No idea what you are going with with the 'wind-up attempt' or what you think I was trying to make you 'fall for', why you and robin would feel a need to be snarky about the legitimacy of the service... but you're both more than welcome to keep your negativity to yourselves and not follow me around the forum to instigate arguments with your assumptions and slander.

Have and a nice day.

Not the one labeling, judging, and generally being rude

Tony,

I don't know how you can say such things. You have been going around lumping whole groups of people together, misunderstanding well-stated points, calling people names and going on for days about your gripe with people who gripe while all along never acknowledging that you are actually b***hing, judging, and calling other people names.

I was simply pointing out that you were talking about something completely different than what the OP was discussing, the key difference being that OP did not expect payment for the time, he just wanted the record of it back. He seemed quite careful to make that clear, but you somehow missed it anyways.

Well, that is all I am saying. Except that I used to really enjoy your posts and the encouraging way you seemed to have. I don't see it that way anymore. In fact, I see things quite differently now. Sad.

can't think of a fitting subject line

Tony H. wrote:
why you and robin would feel a need to be snarky about the legitimacy of the service...

I was not snarky about the legitimacy of the service.

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follow me around the forum to instigate arguments with your assumptions and slander.

SLANDER? 1) It's in writing. Hence it's not slander. If it were anything at all it would be libel. I don't see anything of the sort.

2) Nobody "follows you around the forum." Don't flatter yourself. And don't be paranoid. Look at it this way. Some people have a lot of interesting things to say. You are one of those. So others tend to read the posts of such a person more closely. When people have strong opinions others tend to react more strongly to them. Both when they agree and when they disagree.

I commented on a couple of your posts disagreeing, and also totally agreed with you on another. That does hardly contitute a sustained campaign, does it? Not even "following around" - I'm nobody's lapdog.

I generally like and agree with your posts, and have commented on that fact many times. Occasionally someone says something that causes a stronger reaction and people disagree. Some of us a bit more blunt than others. The written word can come across differently to how it was intended, and sometimes people whose native language isn't the forum language can be "read" in a way that wasn't how the poster wanted it it to be read. Now I am categorically NOT using that latter factor, my English is just about good enough that I tend to know when I'm being rude Wink

Tony, it's not personal. We can "like" a person's online persona and still vehemently disagree with some of the things they say.

Definitely needs a fix. I

Definitely needs a fix. I edit books through Odesk and my client likes me to log our meetings as well.