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In my first week here I got two paying gigs and both clients LOVE my writing.

Encouraged by this, I applied for a position over at Demand Media in their Pets Section. They just today told me I am "ineligible" and "do not meet minimum standards" in spite of my meeting all 4 requirements that they list.

(insert hysterical laughter here)

I went over to eHow to read some of the articles on pet health written by their presumably qualified people - you know, folks with a writing degree from some podunk community college? It's largely word salad.

Editors need to learn to leave the medical writing to us medical professionals. Seriously.

(I have a doctorate in veterinary medicine and 30 years of clinical experience. And I do NOT write word salad.)

I love oDesk.

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Was it a rate issue?

Was it a rate issue?

I don't understand your question.

I don't know what a rate issue is. I wanted to be able to write over there. You have to apply to be accepted to the different sections. I am a veterinarian so I applied (logically I thought) to the Pets Section.

I met all 4 criteria - I have experience in treatment of animals; I have a veterinary degree; I have written for an established publication pertinent to the topic; I submitted an example of writing showing I could write on the subject.

They said I did not meet the minimum qualifications.

I felt like I had fallen through the looking glass. And if they don't approve of professionals like me, it's no wonder eHow is so pathetic in the Pet Health department.

Oh, gotcha. I thought you

Oh, gotcha. I thought you applied for this through oDesk and may have been turned down for commanding a higher rate than they the other bidders

I find ehow to be sadly

I find ehow to be sadly lacking in real info.

Just a website that takes up electrons.

Joseph..

Joseph C. wrote:
I find ehow to be sadly lacking in real info.

Just a website that takes up electrons.

Demand is no longer taking input for eHow (thank God!).

What they have now are channels for various clients, including Travel, Health and Fitness, Science, Pets, etc. The pay is only so-so ($25 for 500 words) and a high percentage of the editors are lacking in knowledge of their topics.

But its a good place to start if you have no web presence, like the OP, or are needing something to put in a portfolio.

I haven't written there in over a year and a half because of the lousy pay, even though I'm qualified for Pets. Like any other platform, some of the writers and editors are bottom-feeders (meaning they google everything they write), some are just so-so, and some are top notch. The top-notch writers are, however, in the minority.

Most of those left a while back for private clients, like I did, and just use it to fill in gaps during the month.

I would only recommend it to someone just starting out in freelancing, like the OP, to get a portfolio, and to start getting a name for themselves.

I happen to suspect that

they have outsourced their decision making process to India, lol.

My lengthy professional resume apparently flew right over their heads. Their typical writer for Pet Health is just a writer. No veterinary credentials whatsoever.

Now I understand why my clients are always getting terrible veterinary information off the internet, if this is the sort of standards out there. Sigh.

You might want to rethink that supposition.

Gayle R. wrote:
Their typical writer for Pet Health is just a writer. No veterinary credentials whatsoever.

Read my profile. I have veterinary credentials.

I don't write there any more because I make more money elsewhere with private clients. I do believe its a good place to start when writers have no previous web presence or are unpublished.

I also don't do much here anymore on oDesk because the typical clientele here wants $10 "artical writters" and not real, valuable, credible information -- which I charge for.

My regular, quality clients respect the fact that I know what I'm talking about and they're willing to pay well for quality content, whether its articles, books, white papers, or training manuals.

Sometimes when one is just starting out in a business like freelancing, its best not to go and burn your bridges before you even get started.

Well

I don't believe I called you out personally. I don't know you from Adam. I was referring to the typical writer over there for pets. They don't generally have professional expertise.

I HAVE noticed that people who don't have much expertise in pet health often consider veterinarians to have ZERO expertise and are frequently either dismissive of or overtly hostile toward them. That's just more Alice Through the Looking Glass nonsense.

Are you saying that I am wrong to be offended at being told that I do not meet criteria that I obviously do? I'm not sure how that thought process works. I'd have to be crazy not to be insulted by what DM did. They completely ignored my lengthy CV. I had a good cry over it and then I did what any normal, thinking, feeling human would do. I got mad.

I thought this forum was someplace where we could vent a little bit and find support among colleagues. Instead you seem to be saying I should simply shut up and accept this slap in the face without complaint. I'm not that kind of person. Injustice needs to have the light of day shined upon it.

This should serve as a warning to anyone who thinks DM might be a good place to write. They do not have a rational selection process. Be prepared to be rejected for no reason whatsoever. Expertise is NOT valued there.

Whooooooooa !

Gayle, what on earth brought that on? Nobody here had a go at you. You are lashing out in the wrong direction. So you got rejected at some site..... It's not as if someone died. Maybe they did not like your style or your attitude. INJUSTICE? Good grief. You better get used to rejection, because otherwise freelancing is not for you. If you cry or get mad, let alone BOTH, just because someone didn't think you are a good fit for them you won't stop crying and / or getting mad. ........

Petra....

I wrote over there for almost 4 years. The pay was crapola but it gave me a web presence, bylined published work, and enough of a background to start making a lot better money from private clients. I still say its a good place to start for newbies to freelancing, which the OP is.

Her inability to handle rejection was explosively shown when she went on a 5 or 6 thread rant over in the Demand forums, spamming from forum to forum on how badly she was mistreated, even going so far as to call out a particularly bad writer by name. She may have been correct on that person's abilities, but one thing I know for sure is that you don't go into a business' forum and rant about the way they've mistreated you IF you ever expect to continue to write there.

She was deleted from the forums there, all her ranting posts were deleted, and even though in 6 months she can reapply for the Pet Section, I doubt if they will accept her. They have long memories over there and one of the things they specifically state is that forum behavior will cause you to lose your writing privileges.

I attempted to explain that to her at the time, but she chose not to listen.

If she had paid attention, she should have stopped where she was at, backed off a bit, and applied to the Science Section also where she might have been accepted. They accept new writers into specific sections on an as-needed basis. Pet Section is filled and the titles are winding down, which is probably why they didn't take her on. The Science Section is just starting up and they're taking on new writers.

With the attitude she exhibited in those forums, I seriously doubt they will take her on now.

I am not surprised

Cate B. wrote:

Her inability to handle rejection was explosively shown when she went on a 5 or 6 thread rant over in the Demand forums, spamming from forum to forum on how badly she was mistreated, even going so far as to call out a particularly bad writer by name. She may have been correct on that person's abilities, but one thing I know for sure is that you don't go into a business' forum and rant about the way they've mistreated you IF you ever expect to continue to write there.

She was deleted from the forums there, all her ranting posts were deleted, and even though in 6 months she can reapply for the Pet Section, I doubt if they will accept her. They have long memories over there and one of the things they specifically state is that forum behavior will cause you to lose your writing privileges.

I attempted to explain that to her at the time, but she chose not to listen.
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Why am I not surprised? Do people honestly believe they are somehow ENTITLED to wholesale buyer adoration?? No supermarket can force me to buy my stuff from them, any more than any website is under any obligation to buy the wares of any given writer.

This is just ridiculous.

Indeed

Joseph C. wrote:
I find ehow to be sadly lacking in real info.

Just a website that takes up electrons.

More apt words were never said.