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New to ODESk need to get a job

Hi everyone i just got pregnant i i really need an additional job since i only make around a 100 dollars (5,000 pesos)a month..any advice

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1. keep private things private. seriously, we don't have to know the details. we all have our own problems and face challenges everyday, but you hardly see anyone talk about it, it's very unprofessional.

2. be realistic. you're a day old here, and you're going to compete against hundreds of thousands of other contractors. prepare to be disappointed, but do not lose hope.

3. fix your profile. take tests that highlight your skills, and hide those that have low scores. it's not something to be proud of.

4. ditch the overview, and write a new one. again, nobody cares. you don't have to tell everyone you're a stay at home mom, in fact it's a turn-off because it says you're just another jobless person looking for a quick buck, with no thought to quality or a client's concerns.

"If you don't like something, change it. If you can't change it, change your attitude. Don't complain." - Maya Angelou
Try harder, or care less.

Hi Dara, welcome to oDesk. I

Hi Dara, welcome to oDesk.

I agree with Junelle regarding the profile. A professional profile that showcases your skills and strengths is what you need. Create a killer profile, add a portfolio to show clients what you can do for them. Take skill tests that are related to your niche. And then apply to jobs with a great cover letter that draws attention.

For more details please read the links below, they are full of very useful info and great advice:

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Always reach for the skies, for even if you fall, you'll still be on the top of the world...

Seriously, we don't need

Seriously, we don't need those info. Kindly improve your profile. Make the overview more professional.

Also, I hope you don't see Odesk as some place where you can earn quick and easy cash. Do not look at yourself and the rest of us like that. We're professional in our own specific field. The money is just a bonus (well, not really, but you get my point).

Anyway, congratulations to you and the baby.

Hi Jowett

Jowett Isaiah G. wrote:
Seriously, we don't need those info. Kindly improve your profile. Make the overview more professional.

Yours can also benefit from improvement so that it will reinforce one of your statements that you can easily catch grammatical errors, or something to that effect. It should be "one of the best communicators." That will make it also more professional and true.

Sorry, pet peeve.

thanks

No worries, no offense taken. Anyway, how were you able to view my profile? It's private. Hmmme

she did admit it's a pet

she did admit it's a pet peeve, so i'm sure the "thing" got stuck in her head - the same way it did in mine, to be honest. it was just plain ironic.

i have to clarify with Cherry though, what exactly was the peeve? bad grammar, or the fact that some people claim - erroneously - that they can detect bad grammar?

"If you don't like something, change it. If you can't change it, change your attitude. Don't complain." - Maya Angelou
Try harder, or care less.

Your profile wasn't set to

Your profile wasn't set to private when you started answering posts. I check the profiles of anyone who posts to get ideas about how I can improve myself as a contractor. So there goes your hmmmm...

Junelle, it's being snotty when there are a lot of things that are also blatantly wrong on one's profile. Another "isn't ironic" thing and pot meet kettle. And seriously, a negative copyscape comment from a client did it for me. Sure, copyscape is not the Bible, but... Sorry Jowett, but you also have this same comment on your elance profile. As a writer, that is unforgivable.

Another thing is the emphasis on being able to catch grammatical errors, and clients would comment that there are a lot of grammatical errors on what he submitted.

I don't really subscribe to bashing other people, but you have to seriously rethink your position.

ETA: Sorry Junelle, I wasn't very clear when I used "you," but I'm sure YOU know what was for you, and what wasn't. Was fuming when I wrote this. The nerve of the "hmmmme..."

Why me?

Well, really? Those are just feedback and good contracts that gone bad. All articles I submit to my clients are Copyscape passed. Do you really think I will still have a job right now if I have not satisfactorily answer my clients about these things you're throwing at me.

Besides, I was suggesting some improvements to Dara. I was not, like, showing off my profile or something. Thanks for your for-the-greater-good comments regarding my profile. I just hope you bothered looking at Dara's and suggest something for we're really helping her here.

BTW, did you really take the time and look for my other freelancer accounts? Why don't you just post another thread here, describe how bad a writer I am and get on with it. (Anyway, you can't... against rules.)

Don't be ridiculous. I don't

Don't be ridiculous. I don't echo, which you obviously do. Do I have to say I agree with whatever everyone has already posted just to have something to say? She hasn't come back yet, and we haven't heard what she has to say about the first few feedback.

Walk the talk. I don't have to point out to you what should have been obvious. And with a feedback of what, less than 4, with several jobs already completed, you don't have a very solid ground to stand on, so think before you issue a challenge. If you were that good, consistent 5s would have pulled your feedback up.

As for still having a job after the very same comment on oDesk and Elance, there are a lot of clients who deserve what they are willing to pay. Yes, you had some good feedback, but the negative copyscape comment is very damaging. Yours is actually the only profile I saw with a comment like that.

I don't have to look at other sites. It was bad that I saw that feedback here, it's worse that I have to see that on the other too.

echo echo echo

I am not guilty with these negative feedback that's why I kept them public.

I apologize, I didn't know you should have a 5 star feedback (which you have), to suggest something to our fellow contractors. Well, you don't have to just agree with the suggestions posted earlier for Dara, you can add. @Dara: Kindly refer to Cherry's profile.

I took your first (constructive) criticism very open mindedly and sportly (are there such words? They are underlined with red crooked lines.).

Jowett Isaiah G. wrote:
No worries, no offense taken. Anyway, how were you able to view my profile? It's private. Hmmme

But I don't see the reason why you have to continue pointing out the flaws of my profile in your next replies. And these are feedback. If I've known my client will give these feedback, then I should have told the whole story in my feedback to them as well. Again, my later clients accept me as their writer for I've satisfactorily answer them about these negative feedback, so I don't see why you can't.

I have no power here, your profile is obviously better than mine and I hope we're not violating Forum Rule #6. And I still believe I'm a great writer minus the negative feedback.

Add something to what Junelle

Add something to what Junelle and Ayesha said? What else can I add from what a forum moderator has already said? She almost always has the last word because she knows better. And add when the OP has not replied yet?

As for continuing to point out the flaws in your profile, in case you missed it, Junelle asked me what exactly my peeve was.

As for saying you have no power here, don't resort to argumentum ad misericordiam. You are better than that, I hope. And don't resort to sarcasm either by directing Dara (who again, didn't come back) to my profile.

Rule 6? I have not called you what I think you are. I just pointed out what your clients said.

I frequent these fora, but

I frequent these fora, but seldom reply to posts. My reason is that I don't think I have enough experience and skills (as far as oDesk is concerned), so I just let the real experts here give the appropriate advice to an OP.

I think I can empathize with Cherry for her "pet peeve." Like her, I don't like to see people who give an advice they don't (or can't) follow. For me, it's a "don't correct me if you're wrong" kind of thing.

At times one remains faithful to a cause only because its opponents do not cease to be insipid. --
Friedrich Nietzsche

lol. this went downhill

lol. this went downhill pretty fast. Big smile

i don't expect Jowett to come back anytime soon as he is busy "tracking a contract", but i was a bit confused when he sounded surprised about someone having access to his profile. now that's being naive. doesn't he remember his profile being public when he started posting in the forums?

besides, i think it's but natural that your profile gets checked out, especially when you're the "new guy". i do that myself so i'd have an idea "who" i'm talking to - i don't know how else to do it! (i took a little peek at yours too Cherry. Wink) if he didn't expect that, again he's being naive.

what i find really funny? his profile being set to private the moment he suggests somebody should improve theirs. Wink

"If you don't like something, change it. If you can't change it, change your attitude. Don't complain." - Maya Angelou
Try harder, or care less.

Obviously I checked yours

Obviously I checked yours too. LOL How else would I learn about what others are doing? I actually started taking jobs here in late November. I know I have a lot to learn, so might as well snooped on fellow contractors' profiles before I make a fool of myself. Tongue

[quote=Cherry M.]I know

Cherry M. wrote:
I know I have a lot to learn, so might as well snooped on fellow contractors profiles before I make a fool of myself. :P

i didn't do any profile snooping, but i did lurk the forums for a long time before finally making my first post. that's how i *didn't* make a fool of myself. Wink

come to think of it, that's probably how i developed my "sherlock" skill. Laughing out loud

"If you don't like something, change it. If you can't change it, change your attitude. Don't complain." - Maya Angelou
Try harder, or care less.

Know what a "permalink" is?

Jowett Isaiah G. wrote:
how were you able to view my profile? It's private. Hmmme

You know what a "Permalink" is? When you post that on the Internet (Why you would want to direct clients from another platform to bad feedback on this one is, of course, another question) that's what happens...

I surrender. Two great

I surrender. Two great profiles? I'm outta here.

I apologize for suggesting something to Dara - not worthy enough.

You might want to sweep away

You might want to sweep away those split infinitives when wearing your Grammar Nazi hat. Wink

i will, once that becomes a

i will, once that becomes a solid grammar rule. but for as long as there are split views about it, i will indulge myself. nope no smileys.

Last time I checked, there

Last time I checked, there were pretty solid rules about tenses and plural agreements. Might want to brush up on those as well, since we are discussing pots and kettles.

i do, i do. i even enrolled

i do, i do. i even enrolled on the course suggested by Doreen. can't get over the rate issue, can you? never seen you like this before. and it's easy to take on someone who doesn't belong to a pack, right?

I've become tired of the

I've become tired of the nastiness on the forum,so I was pointing out the shortfall in your sniping strategy as a way of making a point about the criticism that is being bandied about left, right and centre. Anyway, I'll leave you all to your bullying now. Have fun.

kirsten, it does amaze me

kirsten, it does amaze me that out of all the things in the forum that you are getting tired about, i am given the honor to hear about it.

i will assume that you were making a generalization again, and coincidentally, when you decide to voice out your tiredness about the nastiness, i happen to react to someone who, in the past few days, are replying to threads that are almost dead. his otherwise helpful replies are, at best, echoes and at worst, hypocritical.

i happened to see his profile. nowhere in his profile will you see that he practices what he preaches.

when i was starting out, i read the forums and the reason why i listened to the pros is because everything on their profiles backs up whatever they are saying. catching me with split infinitives, will you ask me for help about them?

but then again, you missed out a kind reply to someone else here in this forum because all you can see is the nastiness, isn't? and with my 73 posts to date, i must have used them all to spread nastiness.

i cannot believe i've missed

i cannot believe i've missed all the action - again!

Kirsten, ease up, cut her some slack. she *has* been posting just recently, and all her posts - including the ones here - couldn't even be called close to bullying. i was banned once for "nastiness" but i never heard anything about that from you. Smile

i know you've become, as you say, tired of it especially since you were at the receiving end at one point. i should've spoken up then, but i knew you could handle it (besides, not sure if you'd noticed but that other guy never actually replied to the censure thrown at him by other contractors so i really didn't think it was worth it).

i've always loved your replies, they were always cool, impersonal, and professional - just as i'd imagined you'd be! most of us here are excitable, so you're just what the forums needs for balance. the way you've been posting lately has come rather as a shock... "nastiness" somehow doesn't become you.

i hope *nobody* takes this the wrong way, but please don't let what *we* are affect who *you* are. this is the forum - nothing here should ever be taken personally. ♥

"If you don't like something, change it. If you can't change it, change your attitude. Don't complain." - Maya Angelou
Try harder, or care less.

Thanks Junelle! Kirsten, I

Thanks Junelle!

Kirsten, I understand where you are coming from. My first few posts here were actually about my position not to use expletives. And seriously, one of the reasons I also do not post/answer regularly is because I use my tablet for forums. I always find missing words, letters, punctuation marks, etc., in what I was supposed to reply. No, I do not have perfect English. I always have to correct myself. I still read grammar books.

Anyway, I just couldn't let pass having to hear about your tiredness twice. And knowin how you reply to posts, and how you repky to mine, I couldn't help but take it personally. I feel that out of all the things I said here on this thread, you have to pick up on something you can use again as an outlet to express your position against nastiness.

And Junelle, you are right. You missed the action again. ;P

Thanks for the words,

Thanks for the words, Junelle. I can handle plenty but I must admit that hanging around these forums has begun to affect my own responses, so I shall be slapping myself on the wrists each time I click that link in future.

Cherry, my initial comment was to demonstrate to you what it is like when the shoe is on the other foot; that you were not above the criticism you had levied out, and that it doesn't take any special qualities to find faults in others. It is not in my nature to run around pointing out people's grammatical errors, particularly since I have nothing but admiration for people who speak English, whether perfectly or imperfectly, as a second language. It was never about the grammar, but you have said you understand what I was getting at so I'll leave it at that.

Your response did make me angry because it was mean, and I responded in kind. On my part, that was unacceptable behaviour, which, again, is why I shall be trying to stay out of these discussions in the future. There is a point at which standing up for others turns into soap-boxing and I believe I crossed that line long ago.

Well

Well, at least I suggest something and add this:

Jowett Isaiah G. wrote:
Anyway, congratulations to you and the baby.

I apologize for my tone. But I don't know why focus on my profile. Maybe to distinguish a bad profile from a good one. I'm outta here. Need to track a contract. You all have a great day. And please, it's not sarcasm. I'm neither defending myself nor showing off my profile to Dara. I was just suggesting or advising.

Seriously???

Jowett Isaiah G. wrote:
But I don't know why focus on my profile.

Seriously???

If somebody says, "You know, you should improve your hygiene," and this person doesn't shower everyday, wouldn't you say that he is not in the position to tell someone to work on hygiene?

The same goes for giving an advice about improving one's profile.

At times one remains faithful to a cause only because its opponents do not cease to be insipid. --
Friedrich Nietzsche

Nice analogy.

Nice analogy. Smile

yes, suggested something 5

yes, suggested something 5 days *after* the last post, when the OP hasn't even bothered to reply, and echoing the posts that came before. i would consider that necroposting already, with the intent to annoy. Tongue

seriously though, it's mighty inconsistent that you first say "we don't need that info" then in the same breath you utter "congratulations to you and the baby." eh?

"If you don't like something, change it. If you can't change it, change your attitude. Don't complain." - Maya Angelou
Try harder, or care less.

Now, stop it, Junelle ...

Junelle A. wrote:
yes, suggested something 5 days *after* the last post, when the OP hasn't even bothered to reply, and echoing the posts that came before. i would consider that necroposting already, with the intent to annoy. Tongue

seriously though, it's mighty inconsistent that you first say "we don't need that info" then in the same breath you utter "congratulations to you and the baby." eh?

Look, this is a "FORUMS EXPERT" (in capital letters on his profile) and "one of the best communicators in oDesk" (his words, certainly not mine) and a heroic hunter of grammar mistakes as well! With, I quote: "an eye that can catch grammatical errors like a flytrap" (shame he can't find the ones littering his profile and posts.)

Us mere mortals should not question such a hero!

no comment!

Petra R. wrote:
With, I quote: "an eye that can catch grammatical errors like a flytrap" (shame he can't find the ones littering his profile and posts.)

Innocent

"If you don't like something, change it. If you can't change it, change your attitude. Don't complain." - Maya Angelou
Try harder, or care less.

Oh Petra

That's what got me into trouble. Tongue And yeah a forum manager, who is now apologizing for his tone.

[quote=Cherry M.]That's

Cherry M. wrote:
That's what got me into trouble. Tongue

nevermind that! grammar and spelling nazis are the happiest! Party

"If you don't like something, change it. If you can't change it, change your attitude. Don't complain." - Maya Angelou
Try harder, or care less.

shame on you guys

Wow! I'm new here and just starting and I was about to post asking some advice to improve my profile but is this the kind of contractors odesk has? Why pick on Jowett? Hes not doing something wrong.He is just giving advice to Ms Dara. And the hell you care about his profile, he just want to give a damn advice. In fact, his more eligible to give an advice than you most of you for I can see JOwett is a much older contractor than you guys. He experience it all the 5 star, the 4 star and now the 3 star. and why elaborate his bad feedback. as far as i know for I am currently reading the help center, feedback cannot be change once the client submit it and it a double blind end. Do you know the story of those contractS? and yes, he has ongoing contracts right now so I can say that he indeed satisfactorily answer his clients about those bad feedback.

and I've though all my life that filipinos are friendly and always help their fellow countrymen. you guys are filipino and you're downhrading the dignity of jowett as a writer. the hell you care if that's his overview. its confidence and maybe that is his motivation to become a better writer. also, is there something wrong to reply or post to a thread that was posted 6 days ago? the thread is not closed so i don't see why pick it as an issue against him. he wants to give an advice.

also, i can see that he apologize which I think he shouldn't. you're are all perfectionist. his profile indeed is mediocre or worst compared to yours. but he keeps his dignity as a writer saying 'i still believe i am a good writer'. instead of coming down to your levels, he apologize. maybe he did because as he said he has no power. but still, he apologize and STILL you keep picking on him?. what kind of contractors are you? instead of helping your degrading his dignity! but i think he does not feel that way, for I can say he is a stronged willed man.

I think I won't be joining this forum forever anymore! I will just focus on working and not bother going to this stinking forum where only the powerful and so called great profiles got the power to suggest improvement to other contractors.

Shame on you guys! Shame on you!

Thanks Rester

Thank you Rester, really appreciate your kind words.

I hope you will come back to the forum and can make your profile public so that we can see it.

Like you did, you mean?

Jowett Isaiah G. wrote:

I hope you will come back to the forum and can make your profile public so that we can see it.

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight....

?

Petra R. wrote:
Jowett Isaiah G. wrote:

I hope you will come back to the forum and can make your profile public so that we can see it.

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight....

you really don't run out of things to throw at me, do you?

Did you miss how we helped

Did you miss how we helped Bemmygail?

...downgrading his dignity as a writer? did i submit the articles for him? was i party to a contract that went bad?

he apologized for his tone, yes? wasn't he replying to a filipino when he used that tone?

at least

Cherry M. wrote:

he apologized for his tone, yes? wasn't he replying to a filipino when he used that tone?

well.at least.HE apologized.

Nope. Don't feed the troll

It's a known strategy in forums to create an alternate persona (or multiple personae) or get somebody else to make a new account to come to the rescue of somebody.

If Rester is new here, how could he have known that Jowett is a Filipino without seeing his profile? Wink

Don't feed the troll. Wink

At times one remains faithful to a cause only because its opponents do not cease to be insipid. --
Friedrich Nietzsche

lol, excellent point!

lol, excellent point! Laughing out loud

You've all gone too far.

Do you guys really need to rub it in and invent things just so Jowett can continue to be the laughing stock of the whole odesk community?

He indeed had wrongly or foolishly placed those 'phrases' in his profile with those bad feedback. But that's how he saw himself. Also, if you check on the other feedback, after that two bad contract all later feedback were good. And who are you to judge him as like your saying 'his a lousy writer'? You are not his client.

I've been monitoring this thread and I say you guys are so immature. You keep on taunting him and slap him in the face with the flaws on his profile even after he had apologized? Seriously guys, you are not helping! I am a psychology major and this can have a massive effect on how he will view himself the next time he views his profile or the next time he is typing an article for his client. I hope you stop these things. I admire him even more to just use sarcasm and maintain his composure as he deals with the four of you.

You guys, AS A WRITER, should know that WORDS are POWERFUL. It can destroy his career, his reputation or even his life. You have no idea.

Sorry, I just had to look at

Sorry, I just had to look at your profile. Psychology major? Please change the information re your education because it says something different there.

Ask him to make his profile public. And how come you are able to see the contracts? Smile Went through the long process of going to the other site to get the link, or what?

Yes, words can be damaging that's why the negative feedback stuck to me. His feedback is not a figment of my imagination. Do you honestly think we would enjoy seeing feedback like that?

Yes, I am aware that this has an effect, like taking accountability for one's actions or being true to one's clients from here on.

IF you would carefully read my reasons for calling his attention re his profile, then you would understand that HIS clients made the judgment.

Now, I will try to stop answering this thread. This has already gone too far. Keeping this thread alive, well, draws the attention back to his profile.

I hope he is fine.

Cherry M. wrote:
Sorry, I just had to look at your profile. Psychology major? Please change the information re your education because it says something different there.

Well, I am a psychology major, I've shift courses. I am not intelligent, I don't have a bachelors degree, but I know how to read people's emotion. Also I am an amateur writer as well. I am a jack of all trades.

Quote:

Ask him to make his profile public. And how come you are able to see the contracts? Smile Went through the long process of going to the other site to get the link, or what?

As I've mentioned I've been monitoring this thread. I've seen Jowett's profile even before he made it private. So what's your suggesting, I'm jowett's another persona using a different account? Well, sorry but I am not.

I am not surprised on why he is not responding to this thread anymore. Maybe he's indulging himself with self-pity, shocked and depression with those things you guys slapped him hard on his face. Or maybe he just quit Odesk entirely knowing his a bad-*** writer.

Quote:

Yes, words can be damaging that's why the negative feedback stuck to me. His feedback is not a figment of my imagination. Do you honestly think we would enjoy seeing feedback like that?

Well, I can surely say that you enjoyed it. With those replies after he had apologized?

Quote:

Yes, I am aware that this has an effect, like taking accountability for one's actions or being true to one's clients from here on.

IF you would carefully read my reasons for calling his attention re his profile, then you would understand that HIS clients made the judgment.

Yup, his client did. But I just hoped that you guys stop from there. Not rubbing it all over, from his overview - feedback - to his overall profile and making these thread noisy enough to be notice by almost everyone.

Why do you think he switch his profile to private? Simply, to shut everyone else from viewing his profile. Simple psychology, he admit his foolishness and to stop another person to laugh at his mistakes or profile. It's like being bullied in school - locking yourself in your room, locker, or anywhere else where you feel safe.

I can see that's the only thing that keeps him from not bursting with tears/anger to/from your replies is his quote that 'he still believes his a great writer'.

Anyway, I just hoped his fine.

Just quit the charade, nobody is buying it!

Juliet Galon wrote:

Anyway, I just hoped his fine.

Flytrap not quite working, is it?

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Or maybe he just quit Odesk entirely knowing his a bad-*** writer.

Well, he's happily applying for contracts, so that doesn't seem to be the case.

You could always send your good friend a message on facebook, might be easier than this fake handwringing here, wouldn't you think?

:D

Petra R. wrote:
Juliet Galon wrote:

Anyway, I just hoped his fine.

Flytrap not quite working, is it?

Laughing out loud Cool

At times one remains faithful to a cause only because its opponents do not cease to be insipid. --
Friedrich Nietzsche

you're as messed up as he is

you came to the forums because he approached you with this "poor me" attitude asking for help, and you're just a sucker for the "underdog". how about growing up and going back to applying to jobs instead. you've been inactive since november 2012 and all you do after coming back is post on the forums?

Juliet Galon wrote:
Well, I am a psychology major, I've shift courses.

how can you be a psychology major when you've shifted courses?? doesn't make sense.

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I am not intelligent, I don't have a bachelors degree, but I know how to read people's emotion.

the last time i checked you need to be intelligent to "read people's emotions" - because then you can *accurately* interpret them.

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Also I am an amateur writer as well.

an amateur writer, but a "master blogger and proofreader"?? get outta here!

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I am a jack of all trades.

and we all know what comes next - master of none. god help your clients.

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I am not surprised on why he is not responding to this thread anymore. Maybe he's indulging himself with self-pity, shocked and depression with those things you guys slapped him hard on his face. Or maybe he just quit Odesk entirely knowing his a bad-*** writer.

in that case, he needs *your* help, Ms. Psychology-major-who-shifted-courses-and-hasn't-even-actually-practiced-the-profession-but-likes-to-think-she's-an-expert-at-reading-people's-emotions.

no use sticking around and telling *us* what to do.

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Why do you think he switch his profile to private? Simply, to shut everyone else from viewing his profile.

if you'd truly been "monitoring the forums" you should have seen my post saying he switched his profile to private *after* he told someone else to fix their overview. way to go, genius!

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Simple psychology...

gee, maybe you *shouldn't* have "shifted course", you're apparently so good at simple psychology. i'm sure the whole world will learn a lot from your "simple psychology".

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I can see that's the only thing that keeps him from not bursting with tears/anger to/from your replies is his quote that 'he still believes his a great writer'.

there are worse problems in the world than being told you're not what you thought you are. cry-babies have no place anywhere - not in the forums, not in freelancing.

"If you don't like something, change it. If you can't change it, change your attitude. Don't complain." - Maya Angelou
Try harder, or care less.

How sweet - all those amazing coincidences!

Juliet Galon wrote:

He indeed had wrongly or foolishly placed those 'phrases' in his profile

How sweet - you have the same "catch grammatical errors like a flytrap" phrase as he does. What an amazing coincidence! Wink Only you catch "speeling" mistakes (as you call them) like a flytrap, too. Impressive.

Same town, too! AND the same university! Who'd have thought it! Both "Master Bloggers..."

So much in common, you should meet for coffee!

well, i've worked with him

Well I've worked with him. In fact, we had been in the same agency. If you can see 'webcontentfillup'. And I am the one who copied his overview, is that something wrong?

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